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Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 23 Jan 2013, 00:58
by Shovelnose
Picture : Lal Ram Liana
Mystus bleekeri from Mizoram.
I have requested him to take a few detailed pictures to compare with the Bengal and Madras specimens. Will post them here once I get them.
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 24 Jan 2013, 13:25
by Shovelnose
Pictures : Lal Ram Liana
from Mizoram.
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 05:31
by Silurus
I'll have to say even the M. bleekeri from Mizoram does not look like the one from Nepal illustrated in the Cat-eLog.
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 16:46
by The.Dark.One
Yes, the head and eyes for one look different.
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 27 Jan 2013, 16:20
by Shovelnose
Mystus bleekeri is turning out to be a bigger complex of variants/species than I imagined.
Just got back home from a collection / much needed leisure trip in the Eastern Ghats. I had hoped to collect Mystus from this region as I have seen them here before. With a bit of help from a few unsuspecting friends, I managed to collect around a dozen juvenile specimens.Once the fish are settled, I will take pictures and post them up here.
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 29 Jan 2013, 17:40
by Shovelnose
I had been wanting to collect in the Amirthi River (Eastern Ghats) again as one of the
Mystus specimens I have presently was collected from there. I was hoping it would be this one :
I haven't been able to assign a collection locality to this specimen as yet.
I did end up collecting a few juvenile
Mystus specimens that do look close to this species but I have a feeling I these are
M.vittatus .
What do you think???
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 29 Jan 2013, 18:15
by The.Dark.One
Hi
Hard to tell using live fish as the fontanel isn't always as obviously visible, but the shape and length don't look right for
M.
vittatus?:
http://www.scotcat.com/articles/m_vittatus2939_2.htm
Looks more like
keletius' fontanel?:
http://www.scotcat.com/articles/m_keletius9011_2.htm
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 10:51
by Shovelnose
Yes, the shape and size do look different from
M.vittatus.
Mystus vittatus - Pondycherry
Hopefully, this means another
Mystus gets a collection locality and hence, a name. They will need to double in size to be of use, working on that now.
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 11:21
by The.Dark.One
It will be interesting to see what the fontanel looks like been preserved. They might be the same, but hard to tell on live specimens sometimes.
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 11:57
by Shovelnose
The.Dark.One wrote:They might be the same
As in the unknown
Mystus and the juvenile
Mystus collected recently???
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 12:22
by The.Dark.One
the juvenile Mystus might be the same as vittatus. In juvenile live specimens the fontanel will sometimes look different to adults. When they have grown and eventually when preserved they need to be cross referenced with vittatus. It will be easier to compare then
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 13:59
by Shovelnose
I have four
M.cavasius and a lone
M.seengtee. Thought I could show the differences between the two species. The first specimen is seengtee in both images.
Dorsal fin comparison.
Predorsal profile comparison.
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 18 May 2013, 12:00
by Shovelnose
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 08:47
by Shovelnose
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 04:16
by Shovelnose
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 04 Oct 2015, 15:24
by Shovelnose
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 05 Oct 2015, 00:54
by Silurus
This fish has a name. I just don't know the correct name to apply to it. Hopefully not the one named for me.
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 05 Oct 2015, 07:12
by Jools
That is as intriguing a reply as I've read in a good while. I didn't know you had a Mystus named after you. Will go check...
Jools
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 05 Oct 2015, 07:14
by Silurus
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 05 Oct 2015, 10:30
by Shovelnose
Silurus wrote:This fish has a name.
I guess it is finally time for me to bite the bullet and read through Plamoottil's papers.
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 17 Nov 2017, 09:11
by Shovelnose
A couple of new additions.
, stress colouration.
, north east India.
Re: The Mystus ID Thread
Posted: 21 Apr 2018, 07:04
by Shovelnose