newbie : breeding ancistrus - long post !!!

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perrush
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newbie : breeding ancistrus - long post !!!

Post by perrush »

Hi all,

as said before, I want to try to breed L-nrs (H. Zebra if possible) but I don't have any experience with raising fry or something like that. For gaining experience some suggested that I tried the bristlenose first.

Today I was in a well known shop in Germany and saw a large, very active 4 inch long ancistrus male. So I thought : " thats what I need :P "

In the tank where, in my view, 2 varieties of ancistrus :

type 1 : The first was almost black with some feint dark brown stripes across the body. Of this sort my male is. They're were definitely 3 other males with antenne and 1 fish without antenne of the same size of this type in the tank.

type 2 : The second sort had more brown dots, like a leopard and were somewhat smaller. There ware 4 fish without antenne in the tank of this kind AND one WITH an antenne which was clearly a male.

Now the salesman said those with the dots (type 2) were the females, those black ones (type 1), the males. I didn't and still don't believe him :oops: but because he should know his job I took a large female of type 2 for my male instead of the type 1 without antenne.

What do you "experts" :wink: think about this story ?

Is the large black one (type 1) without the antenne just an immature male or could it be a female.
Are type 1 and 2 the same species ? Or do I have a pair which don't match :cry:

Here under a picture of my 'pair':
on the left the male (type1) on the right the female (type 2)

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Well so far so good, how do I proceed from here ??

The tank will be 300 L (66 gallon) with a bottom space of 120 cm * 50 cm (47 * 20 inch). And the fish will be the only in there. Breeding cages, current, ... all will be provided.

Do I just hope this pair match and let them together alone. Or is it wise to purchase a female or 2 extra so the male can choose. Or is the tank big enough the even habitat 2 males and 4 females. Forming pairs will be much easier than, but I don't know how terrotorial they will be.

I'm open to all suggestions :)

:p Perrush :p
ikan
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Temmicki

Post by ikan »

I think you have 1 pair of L-181 Ancistrus Temmincki. I used to breed them and they are quite easy to keep. You already have a generously large size tank for them and feed them well and hopefully you see some action soon. Of course the more fish the more change you have. I fed mine Hikari sinking wafer and blood worm. They also eat slighly boiled zuchini and pumkin.
You can check Chill's webpage http://www.catfishworld.tk/ . He has an article on it. The picture shows the fish darker than yours but I am sure they are the same species.
Also a very good article on catfish of the month December 1998.
And if you have a spare tank why not get some young zebras let them grow together and by the time you have experience with raisng fry your zebras will be ready to spawn.
perrush
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Post by perrush »

Tnx Ikan,

So it's normal for them to expose different patterns in the same species ?? The better :) now I have a pair.

I think I'll put another male and 3 females in, so they can have a big party ;-)

:p Perrush :p
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