Is this Corydoras schultzei

All posts regarding the care and breeding of these catfishes from South America.
Post Reply
User avatar
Caol_ila
Posts: 1281
Joined: 02 Jan 2003, 12:09
My images: 53
Spotted: 23
Location 1: Mainz, Germany

Is this Corydoras schultzei

Post by Caol_ila »

Hi!

I brought home these 3 Corys today which I classified as being part of the aeneus-chaos-group.

They are very dark in appearance even on light sand as you can see. The fins have a yellowish touch and all have a golden spot on the shoulder obeve the eye. Stomach is very light.

Image
Image
Image
cheers
Christian
User avatar
Yann
Posts: 3617
Joined: 30 Dec 2002, 20:56
I've donated: $20.00!
My articles: 8
My images: 275
My cats species list: 81 (i:0, k:0)
My BLogs: 2 (i:3, p:90)
Spotted: 108
Location 1: Switzerland
Location 2: Switzerland
Interests: Catfish mainly form South America, Cichlids, Geckos, Horses WWII airplanes, Orchids

Post by Yann »

Hi !
Well I don't think so...
THe Corydoras shultzei seems to have a body shape quite similar to the Corydoras elegans group.
Check Ian's web site:
http://www.corydoras.pwp.blueyonder.co. ... hultzi.htm

Well to me it is a commonly bred Corydoras aeneus, the one you would occasionnly find under the name of Corydoras aeneus "schultzei"
Cheers
Yann
Don't Give Up, Don't Ever Give Up!
User avatar
Silurus
Posts: 12384
Joined: 31 Dec 2002, 11:35
I've donated: $12.00!
My articles: 55
My images: 885
My catfish: 1
My cats species list: 90 (i:0, k:0)
Spotted: 420
Location 1: Singapore
Location 2: Moderator Emeritus

Post by Silurus »

Looks more like <i>C. melanotaenia</i> to me.
Image
User avatar
Yann
Posts: 3617
Joined: 30 Dec 2002, 20:56
I've donated: $20.00!
My articles: 8
My images: 275
My cats species list: 81 (i:0, k:0)
My BLogs: 2 (i:3, p:90)
Spotted: 108
Location 1: Switzerland
Location 2: Switzerland
Interests: Catfish mainly form South America, Cichlids, Geckos, Horses WWII airplanes, Orchids

Post by Yann »

Hi!
I found the snout not to be long enough to be C. melanotaenia

http://www.corydoras.pwp.blueyonder.co. ... ea_htm.htm

here is a wild caught C. aeneus:
http://www.corydoras.pwp.blueyonder.co. ... us_htm.htm

Cheers
Yann
Don't Give Up, Don't Ever Give Up!
User avatar
Caol_ila
Posts: 1281
Joined: 02 Jan 2003, 12:09
My images: 53
Spotted: 23
Location 1: Mainz, Germany

Post by Caol_ila »

Hi!

Even though the pics arent too good the first and last one hit the color best. Its a very brown tone. I was guessing aeneus when i bought them but the girl said no its sth different but forgot the name. ;) (After i told them a Syno angelicus was a decorus and the L90 was an Acanthicus and the L134 was a clown pleco hehe she started to get pissed off a bit :) )

They have a very low shoulder...cruise missile body.
cheers
Christian
User avatar
corydorus
Posts: 83
Joined: 02 Mar 2003, 04:25
Location 1: Singapore and Taiwan
Interests: Books, Corys and Planted Tank
Contact:

Post by corydorus »

Looks like Aeneus to me.
Dennis Wang aka CoryDorus
corydorus@msn.com

ImageImage
Link: MyPrecious
Scarlet
Posts: 21
Joined: 01 Jan 2003, 14:13
Location 1: Hong Kong SAR

Post by Scarlet »

I vote Aeneus too. Like mine : :P

Image
My beloved plecos are Scarlet........Eyes with Evil Look!!
ImageImage
Achim
Posts: 137
Joined: 01 Jan 2003, 18:31
Location 1: Europe, Germany,federal state Hessen, Marburg, Lahn river.
Interests: south american catfish, catfish in general, ostariophysi in general.
Contact:

Post by Achim »

Hi Christian,

Im not 100% sure from the photos, but i think your fish is Corydoras schultzei.
Corydoras schultzei was described in 1940 using fish from a german aquarium strain. This strain obviously still exists. In the description Holly did not show any pictures, but some years later he published a work featuring a photo. This photo clearly shows the fish we know today here in Germany as Corydoras schultzei. Though "the real" Corydoras aeneus comes from Trinidad and looks somewhat different (i've seen a slide of a preserved fish recently), C. schultzei is imo clearly a valid species. Btw: the "normal" aeneus that is in mass breed in SEA seems to be related to a "aeneus-strain" from Pantanal, and isn't imo C. aeneus as well. Im very curious how fish from Trinidad look, but afaik noone has ever exported them from there.´
Ian seems to have removed the picture on his schultzei site (at least i doesn't show on my computer...). This fish is neither C. schultzei nor C. aeneus. Afaik it comes from Peru and seems, as someone already pointed out, to be related with the C. elegans group.
Some synonyms of C. aeneus have already been revalidated (C. venezuelanus, C. schultzei), and there will be further splitting in the future, though what we considered a long time to be C. aeneus isn't imo a species, but a large species group.

Greetings... Achim
User avatar
Coryman
Expert
Posts: 2118
Joined: 30 Dec 2002, 19:06
My articles: 12
My catfish: 5
My cats species list: 83 (i:0, k:0)
My BLogs: 1 (i:0, p:1)
Spotted: 194
Location 1: Kidderminster UK
Location 2: Kidderminster, UK
Interests: Cory's, Loricariids, photography and more Cory's
Contact:

Post by Coryman »

Achin - Christian

Ihave removedthe picture I had identified as C. schultzii. It was not right. there are a number of species that have been resurrected in recent years and may very well prove to be true and valid species, but it needs scientific collaboration to actually prove they really are true species.

Ian
User avatar
Caol_ila
Posts: 1281
Joined: 02 Jan 2003, 12:09
My images: 53
Spotted: 23
Location 1: Mainz, Germany

Post by Caol_ila »

Hi!

Thx achim - ian!

Gratz Achim being mentioned in the datz will surely help boost your traffic. :)

Compared to the other corys these are very much freeswimmers (housed with 3 Discus) the roam all over the tank feeding off the water surface resting on high plants etc. very nice addition
cheers
Christian
Achim
Posts: 137
Joined: 01 Jan 2003, 18:31
Location 1: Europe, Germany,federal state Hessen, Marburg, Lahn river.
Interests: south american catfish, catfish in general, ostariophysi in general.
Contact:

Post by Achim »

Hi Christian,
Gratz Achim being mentioned in the datz will surely help boost your traffic.
Thanks. Didn't boost it much yet, but noticeable :)

Achim
Post Reply

Return to “South American Catfishes (Callichthyidae - Corys et al)”